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Qealoth · Jan 15, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by BellyFlop

i wish they clear this up, its not like its going to damage any $£ on there part to make an Announcement.

Actuall it is better for them to tell us of what might dissapoint us after people have tried the game in teh Pvp for all weekend. Having said that i dont mean that the will however i do believe that it isnt such a problem if we get only one extra slot if we upgrade

Loviatar · Jan 15, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Giving us 2 slots instead of 1 costs them nothing! .

WRONG

each slot costs x amount.

they have over 1,000,000 million months ago, new big markets opening soon, and chapter 2 as well.

that adds up to big money.

NEXT

the rep said the magazine info was a month out of date and no decision on slots has been made yet.

wait for something to actually happen before yelling.

lord_lynch · Jan 15, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57

ok, i'm new and an on/off gw player... (play it when I feel like it

)..but this stands out as a little dissapointing.

Why would the devs either:

1) Not care about players having to delete one/two of their carefullly crafted, grown, loved + cherished characters so they can accomplish both new professions. (Who would want to do that? unless they are really bored with them and fancy a change... I suspect alot of people will not.)

or

2) Want people to miss out exploring one of the new classes...

Perhaps the point is that a player has to buy more than one copy of the game + the expansion just so he/she can keep his/her old characters? .. cos that sounds ridiculous to me.

A player should have everything he/she needs without sacrificing in one account - imo. 1 original game + 1 expansion = 6 characters to use, I havn't even considered PVP.. *agrees with evil hypnotist anyways.

Konrow · Jan 15, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

wow all u people that are quitting if they only give one slot, you guys are simply stupid. just delete one of your maxed otu characters if u run outta space. i really doubt u play all of your chars anyway so deleting one won't hurt you too much. plus u can put that char's stuff in storage and transfer it to ur new char which would now have a nice amount of money and items.

To summarize: If ur planning to quit if we dun get more than one slot, i belive ur pretty stupid and wasted ur money even buying this game.

John Bloodstone · Jan 15, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Just a few thoughts about character slots for Factions:

- (1) If ANet give us 2 new slots right off the bat then guess what 2 professions we are going to see totally dominating the game...

- (2) If we get 2 new slots then that gives us 5 characters, no-one in their right mind is going to want to complete the game 5 times. Imagine how bad it will be after 3 or 4 expansions... characters will just be going unused.

- To solve problem (1), ANet could give us one slot initally then unlock a second one 3-6 months down the line, probably most people will be on their second character by then anyway which will be a core character. Meaning thier third can be the other new profession - unless they want to kill an old char. Alternatively, force the player to complete the game with a core char to unlock the second extra slot, that might work also.

- Problem number (2) is also significant. More chapters means more professions and more slots until we have more than we know what to do with. How ANet plans to make it possible for the average player to unlock all skills I can't imagine - not only that, but I foresee serious shortages in certain classes because of everyone rushing to play the new ones.

As Guild Wars expands, and we get more chars and skills, understand this fact: you WILL miss out on some stuff, it's almost inevitable. Rather than worry about it, pick your favourite characters to progress the game and leave the others by the wayside. You might take one core char through chapter 2 and a different core char through chapter 3. If you really can't face deleting a char then get another account and play through the game 7 times.

The slot issue is almost certainly to do with balance and less likely to do with storage requirements. In order to keep a healthy mix of professions you wont be able to play both the new ones unless you are willing to lose an existing character. A lot of people therefore will probably play with a core character.

Wessels · Jan 15, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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I'm undecided about the issue of extra character slots. When the first news of Chapter 2 started out I assumed there would be another 4 character slots just like Chapter 1. Word around the campfire suggests that if you only have a Chapter 1 account then you get 4 characters slots, and if you only have a Chapter 2 account you will get 4 character slots but your 4 characters are assigned to their specific chapter.

However, if you have a Chapter 1 account and upgrade it with Chapter 2 then you will only have 5 character slots, not 8. You sacrifice 3 character slots in order for all your characters to be able to cross between the chapters. This strikes me as a little unfair seeing as everyone will be paying the same price for Chapter 2 yet those who want to use their existing characters in Cantha, plus try out the new professions would need another account.

Does this make any sense or am I just exposing you lot to the chaotic jumble from inside my head?

This is a valid point , because people buying chapter 2 ONLY ,would have the same amount of character slots as people who have already purchased chapter 1 .

So basically you'd spend the same amount of cash twice to get what someone else gets with a single purchase - in terms of number of character slots .

I have 2 accounts and am also wondering how this would work exactly . Would I get 5+5 slots when upgrading ?? This would mean I could play with all classes though, but I think the post above is very valid at any rate . Simple mathematics will learn that I'd have spent 4*€50 - in Europe ,so Euros

, for both accounts + chapter 2 upgrade -people having only one account wil also spend about € 100 for both installments , I'm assuming -since it's sold as a stand-along game as well - chapter 2 will be roughly same RRP as first instalment in my calculation .

Having said that , heed this remark :

So basically you'd spend the same amount of cash twice to get what someone else gets with a single purchase - in terms of number of character slots .

You'd never get the same content when only owning chapter 2 ( or only GW 1 ) . Question is : is it worth €50 ??? We'll see

Sofar guildwars is by far the game I have played for most consecutive hours , so something about it must be allright

ghostlyranger · Jan 15, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

i only want bigger stash or bag, so i can delete my "packmule" character,

Sekkira · Jan 15, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by Konrow

wow all u people that are quitting if they only give one slot, you guys are simply stupid. just delete one of your maxed otu characters if u run outta space.

That's the problem. You spent a crapload of time and money maxing out your characters and now it's a case of "Well if you want to play something else, you should throw all that work away.

I personally wouldn't mind paying extra for another character slot, or even being able to merge accounts to have 4+4 slots. I mean really, it doesn't cost them any more if you could merge accounts like that, in fact, it'd cost less due to it being an expanded database entry instead of a completely new one.

The prospect of a PvP only slot would be nice as well.

Gli · Jan 15, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by Konrow

wow all u people that are quitting if they only give one slot, you guys are simply stupid. just delete one of your maxed otu characters if u run outta space. i really doubt u play all of your chars anyway so deleting one won't hurt you too much. plus u can put that char's stuff in storage and transfer it to ur new char which would now have a nice amount of money and items.

To summarize: If ur planning to quit if we dun get more than one slot, i belive ur pretty stupid and wasted ur money even buying this game.

I've played for over 1,000 hours. (Well... it does include some pretty hefty AFK time

) That's $0.05 per hour, which I wouldn't call a waste of money.

If there's going to be less than 2 extra slots, I'm not buying and will probably quit. Why's that stupid? What would be stupid is to buy a product that doesn't meet your expectations.

Deathqueen · Jan 15, 2006, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by ghostlyranger

i only want bigger stash or bag, so i can delete my "packmule" character,

Now THERE's the $64 statement. Forget extra character slots, give us another vault. One of my characters is also a pack mule and I don't play her much because all her inventory is full on her and my vault is also full. When I do play her I have to put all her inventory on my pvp character and then if I want to play a different pvp character I have to swap again. Time consuming is about all it is. If we had extra vault though that would be grand. Like EQ has a vault for every character and then it also has a universal slot(s) so you can swap things between characters without having to have 2 accounts.
This would be nice in Guild Wars.

Myrkwid · Jan 15, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

If I, as a chapter one owner, will just get one additional slot when adding chapter two to my existing account....well....then they can trash their friggin addon/standalone/whatever/chapter2. I'm not going to waste my hard earned cash on a ripoff like that.
If they really go for that retarded one-slot-idea, I'm out. And with me around 3/4 of my guild.
Buying two copies of the chapter just to gain acces to the full product is not an option. If there are two addons per year and two copies required to get full access, that would sum up to a nice 15€ per month..then the game is even more expensive than any other MMORPGs out there....

I'm sorry for the harsh tone, but I think it is disgusting that they even thought about just adding one slot for chapter one owners.

An official word on this matter would be nice, but I expect the worst.

VGJustice · Jan 15, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

Gee, I'm seeing all these people who are ticked about the one-slot theory. Gee, why not give everybody 30 slots right off that bat? And then, we can raise the level cap to 1000, just to be on the safe side. Oh, and let's stop nerfing things as well, even when there actually is a serious imbalance (IW with Hundred Blades, or the first itteraton of IWAY). And, let's open up all the areas that were available in Beta, even if some of those areas happen to be buggy. And, let's just do away with this "instanced" stuff, and make it so that the dial-up users have to stick with their console, one-person-only-ever RPGs. Then, tac a $20 a month fee onto that, and we'll have ourselves a REAL MMO.

....seriously, shut up. Go play WoW or City of Hero's if you're that pissy about someone not GIVING you enough of something when they don't have to GIVE you anything at all

Myself, if I get 1 slot, then I can have my PvP Only character back. If I get 2 Slots, then I get to make a Ele/Necro/Assasin/Ritualist. More than that, kudos to me. Basicly, I'll be happy no matter what, so you whiners should just give me your stuff on your way out. I'll take cash, too

Kaguya · Jan 15, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

Go play WoW or City of Hero's if you're that pissy about someone not GIVING you enough of something when they don't have to GIVE you anything at all

Paid for my game, check. I should be allowed to have hopes and dreams of getting fixes to things I find bad. If they slap out a expansion that fixes those annoyances, more money for them, and one happy customer more.

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Getting 2 accounts to have extra slots is stupid imho, you get to unlock all the stuff again, buy all the expansions twice, and not even able to log in the two accounts without buying a second computer or in some way violating the EULA.

Adding more CD-keys to one account should pop open more slots. Maybe they could sell a pack that comes with a key that gives you extra char slot. More money for them again, and happy customers.

And what it comes to 'just delete one char, you won't use it anyways', I can get bored with profession X for some time. I could return to it some time later, maybe swap the 2nd prof and whatever, and I really find it unrealistic to start deleting a char I've used multiple hours of work on, especially when I get zero back from most expensive items I have on that char [15k armor, sup absorb rune/sup vigor] 'get more gold omgz' doesn't work on that either really, I prefer not to farm, was already pushing it when I got all those goodies on my char.

VGJustice · Jan 15, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by Kaguya

Adding more CD-keys to one account should pop open more slots. Maybe they could sell a pack that comes with a key that gives you extra char slot. More money for them again, and happy customers.

I like this idea. Sell a CD key to open up another character slot for, say, $2-$5.

Also, I agree with what you said, I'm just upset with the people who are swearing to pack their bags if A.Net decides to have *only* one more slot with the expansion. *That's* what's got my knickers in a twist. It's like....

"Here's a whole new addition to the game you love, hundreds more gameplay hours, huge content additions, thousands of labor hours! Oh, and we're also going to let you make one more character, so you won't have to delete any of your current characters!"

"But I want more! That's not good enough!"

It just strikes me as whiney.

But, seriously, /signed to the max for a purchasable account expansion. If you guys at A.Net read this, please consider it.

Manic Smile · Jan 15, 2006, 09:35 AM // 09:35

if their current scheme palys out 1 additional would seem more realistic

IMehler · Jan 15, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

Am i the only one who would pay a small fee for more charakters slots? I want 8 in total, so i can experience every charakter with one account.

Kaguya · Jan 15, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by IMehler

Am i the only one who would pay a small fee for more charakters slots? I want 8 in total, so i can experience every charakter with one account.

I just mentioned that couple of posts above

And yes, if they did offer a key that gives one extra slot for certain price, I would buy couple of them for sure.

bconline · Jan 15, 2006, 10:17 AM // 10:17

although 1 more slot is rather meagre, at least it can giv me a sin class

N.B nvr knew assassin guess was rite. got that from maplestory :/

Gli · Jan 15, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

Also, I agree with what you said, I'm just upset with the people who are swearing to pack their bags if A.Net decides to have *only* one more slot with the expansion. *That's* what's got my knickers in a twist. It's like....

Are you telling me you get upset because people won't buy a product that doesn't meet their expectations? That's a rather obsessed attitude.

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

"Here's a whole new addition to the game you love, hundreds more gameplay hours, huge content additions, thousands of labor hours! Oh, and we're also going to let you make one more character, so you won't have to delete any of your current characters!"

"But I want more! That's not good enough!"

It just strikes me as whiney.

You conveniently left out the part where I need to pay them, and the part where I decide if what they're offering is worth what they want me to pay for it. You don't get to decide what other people expect of their purchase.

It just strikes me as arrogant and presumptuous.

Tainek · Jan 15, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Gli

Are you telling me you get upset because people won't buy a product that doesn't meet their expectations? That's a rather obsessed attitude.

You conveniently left out the part where I need to pay them, and the part where I decide if what they're offering is worth what they want me to pay for it. You don't get to decide what other people expect of their purchase.

It just strikes me as arrogant and presumptuous.

hit it on the nail, if Anet Screws this up, plenty of the hardcore & veterains WILL vote with theyre wallets

(and so many people have stated they would pay for extra character slots, they'd be foolish not to offer them now chapter two is here)